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from Jordan
said:So Mr Mousa it is either your preset conditions for debate or no debate at all. So much for respecting the other opinion. I am sorry to say that you do not have the right to set the standards and guidelines for debate, no body has this right. A debate is simply a process of exchanging ideas and perspective and it can never be conditional.
Just as I expected...
You completely missed the point...
So all you understood from my comment is that I am trying to set the rules for debate and dictate to you what you can and what you can't discuss? right? because that is exactly NOT my point..
I am not going to dwell on the trivial fact that everyone has the right to debate whatever issues they want, even though you gave yourself the right to tell people what they should do with their personal websites: " What blogs... should contribute more in the future is giving a picture about Jordan from inside that is more real" ... but that's a whole different story
My point is the websites that is allegedly debating the critical issues are not offering anything new besides the regular whining that you could hear from any taxi driver or even a daily newspaper. With all due respect to you, Naseem, and Khalaf...what is exactly revolutionary about translating the daily news papers stories about the casino, Prince Hamzah hospital, the incompetent parliaments, the privatization deals or corruption allegations to the websites?? How are those all-so-daring internet debates different than any Nahid Hattar article or any report by a weekly news paper about poverty in some village...
My point Batir is if we are going to be hovering around "the government", "the authority" "the executive branch"...then believe it or not ...those are all things get enough coverage in the traditional media and no one is waiting for an individual-based website to "break out" the news that there has been major problems in the whole structure of Jordan as a state for the past few years.
In conclusion, and to avoid the endless barking at the wrong tree, try to answer this question honestly: In the grand scheme of things, who runs this country?
If you have
Thank you for the post! I agree with you completely, especially regarding the ‘Jordanian experts’ … when I first started my PhD a lot of these experts I met at conferences dismissed my topic (which looks at citizen engagement) and pushed me to cover the Jordanian-Palestinian identity issue, the IAF or the Iraqi refugees…!
Musa, I have to disagree with you on a SCIENTIFIC, EMPIRICAL basis … you said that no one is waiting for blogs to break stories that traditional media are not. Actually, so far the data from my research shows that there is a near complete lack of policy based coverage on Arabic language news broadcasters. Most coverage is comment based, general, and policy desolate. As such it is descriptive narrative, not engaging thought-provoking journalism. The debates on Jordanian blogs, even though limited, are incredibly significant when compared to the lack of such public spheres in traditional media.
Also, having a taxi driver share these issues and concerns is no reason to dismiss them – it goes to show that this is what citizens are worried about, this is what they want solved…
from Jordan
said:Thank you Batir for this excellent observation.
Agreed, much of the blogs we are seeing are "personal blogs", which is point of blogs, but that does not mean that the topics should all revolve around personal stuff. Serious thoughts and topics are always a welcome change when browsing the blogosphere.
1. Fear
2. Low debating/analytical confidence
3. Self censorship
4. Fear
But this is changing. There's a whole new generation that is extremely inspired to carry a progressive debate, with a learned point of view and sensibility. They are in their early/mid teens. These kids are doers and are able to imagine the possibilities as they figure out who they need to be for the journey. They come with a whole new dialog, mindstyle and attitude. 
1. Fear
2. Low debating/analytical confidence
3. Self censorship
4. Fear
But this is changing. There's a whole new generation that is extremely inspired to carry a progressive debate, with a learned point of view and sensibility. They are in their early/mid teens. These kids are doers and are able to imagine the possibilities as they figure out who they need to be for the journey. They come with a whole new dialog, mindstyle and attitude. 
from United States
said:Funny how noone mentions the fact that the Arabian countrys have been politacally and economically staggnetted for about 80 years!Elections? When ?Lebenon and hamas have the few freely elected Arabian leadership to speak of!Honest leadership is the way to advance life in the middle east! The Arabian leage is a joke and should be replaced with a real organistion the does something to benifit Arabians that are in need.You see what is happening to your brother and sisters in leb. , p.a, Iraq?You cant hide and say you jordanian because the violence can happen in any part of the middle east because Autocratic regimes are very weak and stupid and ineffective in dealing with any major issue that related to their country!New Arab leadership is need thur out the middle east that can work together and solve these problems before they spin out of control!Zionist sit and laugh at the incompatence,open greed and curruption our leaders show!Cant even feed our people or supply electricty with out england and america and that is a joke!Arabians are much better educated then this our countries have resources but what is going on ?No one asks?no transparity or accountability!
from Jordan
said:I can say for myself that I don't want democracy nor freedom of speech. I want smart and ambitious leaders. To me "Democracy" is a means to achieving a nation's ambition, not an end that we have to work to achieve.
I think we are witnessing change in the whole region when it comes to ambition. That which is being inspired by the ambitious leaders of the UAE. This is good enough for me as I do my part -however small- in realizing this ambition.
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Please Batir let's stop kidding ourselves....
First: let's ask the question...who runs this country...if your answer is the prime minister and his cabinet (of the month) which we like to refer to as "government" ...then you are kidding yourslf again because Dahabi/Bakheet/Fayyez/ Tarawneh or whoever is the flavor of that year does not draw the countries' policies...and if you believe otherwise then you are kidding yourself
Then you ask yourself: how happy are you with the countries vital policies ..especially when it comes to economics and foreign policy? Obviously from the tone of your demands ..not very happy...
Then you have to decide: How unconditional is your support for those who draw those policies (i.e. the palace and to a certain degree other devices...)
Now once you answer those question honestly, you can start debating crtical issues on the basis that:
-If you are supporting the real decision making process in its current format unconditionally ...then sorry to break the news to you ...but you have no right to debate, complain or even discuss critical issues. You have already forfeited that right because you made your decision: unconditional and undisputed support to the real policy architect
Other than that...you can write 5,000-word articles complaining about the hike in prices and the regression of education and it won't matter...even worse...you will just come across as a whining baby whose cries evaporate in dead air ..because honestly they are absolutely and utterly useless.
Now, the fact that as i am writing this comment I am afraid that it may cause me trouble is exactly why people are not debating critical issues.
Final conclusion just in case I lost you: Just as i told Nasim...it is highly hypocritical to repeatedly sing praise to the "regime" and then turn around and crticise its outputs