On July, 18, 2007 1:21 AM , alurduni alhurr
from United States said:

do you have the link? please post it.

Do you have any idea about the methodology they used? Because I think the majority of jordanians doesn't hate the american people, they hate the policy, and for me as someone who lived 3 years between americans I can say that the majority are good people who are misinformed. And we jordanians are overinformed:)

Batir, I am offended by your characterization of me and all Jordanians as people who are inflected with Schizophrenia and Masochism.

you are quick to find flaws in Jordanians, with your often strange analysis and absurd conclusions, putting yourself, directly or indirectly, as in this case, against Jordanians but on the side of USA and our repressive regime.

That to me is worse than Schizophrenia and Masochism you accuse us off. That to me is flagrant opportunism.

and by the way Batir. There is no Schizophrenia and Masochism in the survey. To most people the USA is a land stolen from the natives. It's a place which has wealth and opportunities. Their desire to live there, even as they loath the brutality and cruelty of Americans, is driven by self-interest, to make a good living, not driven by some love affair with the bloody values of the USA, which caused pain to billions around the world throughout history.

So your conclusion is about Jordanians supports your loathing of the people of Jordan. Remember, there is no Jordan without JORDANIANS. And you Batir is the most disloyal of Jordanian.

On July, 18, 2007 11:08 AM , The Observer
from Jordan said:

Actually I bet that if you survey Jordanians about themselves, you would get negative feelings as well!

We have a negative few about everything here in Jordan. The grumpy stereotype of us didn't came up of no where!

But I can feel things are getting better! Lets watch less Al Jazeera and more of Haifa. We are in a desperate need for that!

As someone who lived in the US more than half of my life and chose to leave because of its policies towards the rest fo the world, I would like to be excluded from your classification of jordanians as schizophrenic when it comes to the US, and based on that i would like to comment. I dont believe in myths or gods, however i believe in numbers. Numbers dont lie my friend, and when people dont like what they see they start to either complain or to spin the numbers around in the hope that they come out to their liking. America is a democracy supposedly, I thought you believe in democracy? You know what that means? that means the president, the government and the general public represent each other. dont you agree? Now if the majority of americans elected and then re-elected the government that is currently waging wars on arabs and others alike (venezuela, cuba, the old europe) this can only mean one thing. Look the first time GWB was elected i still had my reservations, the second time he got elected i packed and left. If you listen to radio talkshows if you talk to people around the US you will feel the ignorance, yes they are misinformed yes they are supporting the war, but they are the ones you should call dangerous, not the palestinians who know very well what US foreing policy has brought onto them. The people in Jordan are not blind, they know, they are not dangerous, they are not schizophrenic they are aware, its really shameful to try and be-little them and their minds and treat them like sheep who cant think for themselves. If you dont like the numbers maybe you are the one who is on the outside looking in. Time to migrate maybe?

But markus the approval rate for bush is 29% and foe the congress is 18%..And the words you said are ver familiar to me, I think I heard al-zawaheri saying that..You can't blame the american people(not all of them) and ignore the fact that more than 90% of "us" support al-qaeda, right? Is it our mistake that they are misinformed? I think it is, all the oil money going for palaces should be going into media.

On the other hand there is ignorance as you stated and this becomes obvious when you go south, actually most of the army comes from the south where the evangelical church is very active and they are making the conflict relegious, I feel sick when I listen to what they say BUT you move north you will find more tolerance and acceptance.

I watched a program the other which stated the 50% of american hold a negative image about muslims but of those 50% 80% changed their views when they met muslims and learned more about islam, so we can say that it is all about image, and sadly WE SUCK when it comes to image..
US politics suck, they hava fanatics just like we do. And before I forget the turnout rate for the elections is not that high, I think it goes around 50%.

I apologize for the typos:)

"I think I heard al-zawaheri saying that.."

Muhannad. thank you for gracing the Jordanian bloggers community with your presence. I think you show that we are diverse, and colorful people. from the smart (not you) to the shallow, cliche-ridden types. Thank you. I memorizes your answers. I can guess your reply before you reply.

On July, 18, 2007 8:44 PM , Alurdunialhurr
from United States said:

As Jordanian who has lived in the US for long time and who has lots of "American"friends and neighbors and who also visit the ME frequently, it is fair to say,that Arabs and Jordanian in particular are against imperlistic policies of the US and not the people.

On July, 18, 2007 10:09 PM , batir
from Jordan said:

Thank you guys for all the important comments.
Al Urduni the survey can be accessed by this link
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=256
And the methodology can be reviewed by reading the full report in PDF.
Roba I respect your opinion but let me clarify this. I am not writing this for the USA as you claim. I have never put a foot in the US embasy although I have been offered a 14 days free trip by the embassy few years ago. In addition I have turned down work opportunities with US organizations that could have provided me with double my salary so plz end here the claims of being a pro-USA person.
You say that the desire of people living in the USA is for good living and self interest. Good, I respect that but why do you justify to yourself what to refuse to others. If the government wants to have good relations with the USA for self interest why this is wrong but right for individuals. For me this seems to be hypocracy. As for your personal attacks I am not in a position to go down to this level.
Markus I will also use Mohannad's comparative logic and say if 55% of Americans supported Bush in 2004 does that make the 100% all bad? If 60% of Jordanians do support Al Qaeda does that make us terrorists? I have seen individual Americans spending countless hours in the desert of Jordan trying to help our people while those Islamists in the Professional associations did not spend a nickel on rural development and spend all their money on supporting Saddam and Nasrallah. The individuals are not an indication of the collective policy of a country and neither the contrary.

On July, 19, 2007 12:31 AM , alurduni alhurr
from United States said:

Batir,,you keep confusing and mixing the subject,we are talking about or rather you talking about the jordanian attitude toward America.
Isn't Batir,that the occupation of Iraq and the the
blind support that that American governament have for israel led to all this animosity ,why you think,jordanian hold this negative look toward the American government???
In order to change the situation,American Government must leave Iraq immediately and let the Iraqi People decide for themselves what kind of government they like to have ,American must end it's blind support to Zionist state and give the Palestinian the right to select their own government , force israel to abandon their racist policies and have real and just peace through the enforcement
of all UN resolution,including the right of right.
Otherwise,Jordanians like all Arab people will always have this animosity toward America,and I don't think you can blame them for having this negative feeling and attitude

On July, 19, 2007 8:06 AM , zaid matela
from United States said:

Arabi.. and you are the heavenly send angle.....hallelujah.

Mohannad you are right, ignorance kills. I do not hate Americans, i love them, i think they are more open and less racist than europeans.I love their culture and their values, I'm certainly not you typical al qaeda supporter, actually al qaeda would probably chop my head of if i told them i don't believe in god :). And no I'm not Leninist either, i use my right arm. But just as al qaeda is rightly considered a murderous entity, I think American foreign policy rightly condemns the US, regardless of the good people who live there, i know many, I'm married to one. I lived in San Diego for a while, close to the biggest Marine base in the US Camp pendelton, my neighbors were almost entirely Marines, good human beings, some believe in what they do, some hate it, most respected me, a few hated me, those few today are in control. In Islam , I think there is a concept, forgive me for not being able to quote properly but it basically says, you are responsible for who lead you, or your leaders come from your midst.

Markus,
Sorry I misunderstood you, but actually most of the times our problems comes from our interpretations of the islam through the years..I believe that times had changed, and I am sure that if prophet mohammed PBUH was here now, his means would have changed..Our problem is that we look at some aspects of islam and ignore others; you can find tens of islamic pieces that call for logic and peace..

On July, 20, 2007 10:40 PM , Hareega
from United States said:

I'm not really surprised about the blog, the only people I would call hypocrties are some (not all) immigrants whether Arab or not who come to America and study and work here and even become citizens and they still hate everything in America and treat people like garbage.

However if you run the same survery inside the US, and ask AMERICANS themselves about their opinion, many Americans will answer negatively about what they think of America itself. I hear many Americans saying they're disappointed by what America is doing now, many American politicians are saying that.