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from Jordan
said:Ali you are completely right. I hope you did not misunderstand my article as I am not supporting this view and I consider myself to be among the endangered species calling for reform from inside the state and based on increased public participation and modernization of legislation.
from Italy
said:Batir, related to reforming Jordan, I have a question: how is going the campaign against the honor killings against women and to abolish the articles of the law that support these crimes? Did this campaign have some positive results or not yet?
from United States
said:If the National Agenda was given a chance to be implemented, reform would have been in a much better shape than what it is right now. The national agenda was supposed to have been a blue print for reform, regrettably, it was aborted immediately upon conception.I'm not sure what is needed right now for Jordan to get back on the reform path. Needless to say, electoral reforms should get back on top of the agenda as number one priority, followed by health care reform.
Hello Batir, Even though I probably disagree with you on most every single Political view, I do hold alot of respect for these views, and on occasions you have at least made me think and consider the other end of the equation. With regards to your views on reform in Jordan, I do agree with you on the defeinition of Reform, not withstanding the fact that this is an opnion after all and not really a definition of the actual connotations of reform. The problem lies in the definition that we can potentially agree upon, and the actual implementation of reform, or the lack there-off, in Jordan. After all, you said it right at the start of your post, the reform projects were set forth by the American regeim after Sep-11th, and it had little to do with the genuin greivances of the disinfranchised people of the 3rd world. Its not like America applied reform as you define it in Iraq for example ( Ala Abu Ghreib etc etc.....) and I can sit here and list hundreds fo examples of reform as it was implemented by the US. I do not want to divert the discussion to American foreign Policy, but unfortunatly, or fourtunatly for some, it is a burdening reality, today there is no such thing is real reform in Jordan or the Arab world at large, as much as people would like to believe that there are epic upheavals and cosmic shifts in the middle eastern geo-political scene, the reality is it is a mere skin-sheddign process to accomodate the next phase of the continued dis-infranchisement of the people of the world. reform is an afterthought.
from Jordan
said:hatem; the national agenda was manipulated from isnide the committee itself since three members refused the multiple voting system and insisted on the one man one vote. It was sad to see a concerted effort done to undermine the Agenda and it was awful to see some so-called reformist politicians joining the Karaoke.
Markus thanks for the visit and the very well stated note. This is why Arabs need a genuine reform agenda embracing human rights and freedoms and not get hijacked by the American policy.
from Chile
said:Any reform not based on the adoption of the scientific method of research is totaly absurd intent to build a modern pragmatic society, the age of the utopian societies has gone, and all those thinkers and explorers of spiritual ideals have failed to use their tools in the age of the communication fluidity and information technology which has robbed the main concept of the utopian school and applied it in pragmatic and well-organized experiences. Reform in Jordan needs full Modernization, the Jordanian Society is not prepared for that process, only new Educational Reform that reinforce the principles of Individual Rights and Freedom can prepare the new generation to accept the wind of changing.
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"due to major external pressures and internal political and demographic divisions."
Ahhhh! the favorite bogyman of all repressive regimes. as if all democracies exist in isolated, monolithic societies with one party, one ethnicity, one religion. ironically, "democracies" like this did/do exist and are called one party "democracies" like the Baath or Communists. so damn if you do, damn if you don't.