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from Italy
said:Dear Batir, in my opinion Jordan has really to stop to deal with Hamas, untill it doesn't recognise the right of Israel to exist, independently from "the pressure of USA and Europe" ( by the way pressure sometimes is useful!). I think that Arab and Muslim World don't want the pressure of the West (and it's a RIGHT hope!), so they must act in a determinate way BY THEMSELVES!
Is it coherent that Jordan (just an example) deals with Israel, USA and Europe and at the same time, with Hamas?! I know that Jordan wanna peace, but I think that it can't go on to live in peace, dealing with "all".
In my opinion, there is something that makes Hamas similar to Al-Qaeda: they both wanna the distruction of Israel and the RADICAL islamization of the your part of world.
from Italy
said:Hi...Can I know why my last comment was banned? I also ask sorry if I sent twice the same comments.
from Jordan
said:Queen Rania fan; thanks for keeping up the visists. Your comment has not been banned and I do not use any filtering methods. I only aim to remove posts with vulgar language but not any statement. I think it was a network problem.
Well, Jordan cannot stop dealing with Hamas for the sake of Israel. Jordan, with a high percentage of citizens from palestinian origins has a big strategic link with Palestine and if when the Palestinians elect a Hamas governemnt in a democratic way we will respect that. Isn't this what the west always preaches us with, respecting the choice of people?
from Jordan
said:Although the jordanian gov and some other Arab govs have recognized Israel as a country, we, as Arabs or jordanians from any origin, we still consider Israel as an occupation force to Palestine, and history proves that.
About the hamas thing, am not really a big fan of militant or non militant palestinian groups, because throughout the time each one of them ruled or partially ruled palestinians, no great benefit was achieved.
The weapon smuggling thing, well.. I think even if the gov discovered the weapons belong to hamas, they still should meet with the Palestinian pm to discuss this issue and other issues with him, and i ask one question, israelis kill our childres in paelstine and we still meet with them and welcome them, so why don't we meet with our neighbour arabs? like hamas or syrians?
from Italy
said:Dear Batir,
I realise the difficulties that has Jordan ( and the poor King Abdallah first of all: I wouldn't be in his shoes and either in my beloved Queen Rania's shoes too!!!!:) ), but it seems a double game...and I wouldn't that it'll dangerous for Jordan in the future!!!!...Of course speaking is so easier when you live in another place, but I think that this dealing is dangerous!
I wanna exprime my good luck to Jordan from the deep of my heart!
By the way you're perfectly right saying that West has always repeated that the choice of people must respected: that's obvious, but it's difficult to respect a Governament that makes us FRIGHTENED (try to ask to Hamas leaders that they like the fact that Jordan is formally in peace with Israel? I think that's traitment of Islam and of the Arab cause for these people!)!!! As I told someone takes as alibi for for justifying the attacks against us or Israel (and these attacks don't mean cutting economic help, but still more!), the fact that we democratically chose our leaders: is it a respect? We also could ask the same and with more reason...The principle of respect people is right, but in these case is an alibi to justify the Hamas Governament!
Houzer: I think really that we all (also Western media) shouldn't stop to call "militants" the members of Hamas and call them terrorists!
from Jordan
said:Mr. Batir,
I am happy to read your objective opinion... I hope you be publishing this in Jordanian newspaper.. didn't you?
from Jordan
said:Thanks a lot for this logical analysis of a confusing case..
from Jordan
said:HELP!
http://neverland82.jeeran.com/archive/2006/4/41046.html?r=195199392#comments
from Jordan
said:Thank you all for your feedback. Jano to the best of my knowledge Hamas leadership in Palestine did not deny and said it will investigate. The Islamic brotherhood in Jordan and Hamas in Syria said the governemnt lied.
from Italy
said:Hi people, an information: I red that new Governament of Hamas decided to close an organization of volounteeer in the camp of Qalqiliya because...some Christian men worked there!!! Is that for the interest of Palestinian people?!
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from Jordan
Batir, I must thank you for the post, I think after the whole mess, it needed someone to pause and try to think logically (even though it doesn't need much of thinking), what you came up with by plain logic is undoubted for me.
The "Jordanian "Ganwa" mentality" is what drove some to the state of denial as you said, I can't disagree with that.
Once agian, thanks for summarizing all of the thoughts regarding the issue in one post.