Women are nothing but meat while men are animals. This is in a nutshell the discovery of the Lunatic Mufti of Australia who has dealt the biggest blow to the religion of Islam. The jewels emerging from the mouth of the Mufti of "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside... and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat?" "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred" So the Mufti has reduced gender relations in a secular society to forage behavior by animals seeking to satisfy their basic instincts with no mind or values to control. Well, I do agree with the Mufti in one thing; meat is the problem. In this case, the biggest problem for some men like that lunatic is one certain piece of boneless meat that is situated under the bellies of men. Some cannot control this meat, and let it orchestrate all their dirty thinking and behavior and it is obvious our dear Mufti is one of those guy, especially at the tender age of 65. Unfortunately, the problem is bigger than the Mufti and his Tom & Jerry way of describing social ethics. It is becoming more crystallized on daily basis that the forces of confrontation are gaining momentum in their attempt to create and maintain a wall of mistrust and struggle between the west and the Muslim world, as well as between Muslims in the west and their surrounding communities. This year has witnessed a lot of disappointing events starting with the notorious drawings of the prophet Mohammad in In between those two clear cases of insanity and provocations we had many incidents of misunderstanding including the Pope's speech in September and the statements by Jack Straw about the "difficulty in communication" with Muslim women who wear the Niqab. As far as I am concerned, Straw's remarks are completely justified. In the conspiracy theory infecting the collective Muslim and Arab mind every criticism to their culture is related to Zionist and imperialist factors with virtually no room for self assessment. Muslims are overvictimizing themselves and by this simplifying a very complex nature of the western-Islamic cultural interaction and diversity between mindsets. Many Muslims, albeit living in the west for many years have never accepted the facts that the West has parted with religious domination of culture since more than 200 years ago. The same secularism that is refused by Muslims has been the only factor in granting them equal rights in the West. If the West imposes Christian values on Muslims the same way Muslims want to impose their culture on the West a definite confrontation will happen. The only framework to bring together people from various religious and cultural backgrounds in a true sense of citizenship is secularism. Secularism has many aspects including the freedom to criticize religions, and if Muslims want to exploit the benefits of secularism in the West that should also be able to adapt to its many aspects. Secular As much as the West needs to understand Islam, Muslims must make genuine efforts to respect the secular mindset of the West. One of the most amazing cases of the failure to understand and respect other opinions was reflected by the so-called Mufti of Australia who accused women without veil of "facilitating" conditions of rape and then declared his ignorant statement that if the woman was in her house in her veil no sexual offence can occure. Well, the Mufti can easily force his wife to stay between 4 walls all her life but he can never force the women of Facing such statements, it is not peculiar to see some moderate westerners losing their tolerance to Islamic values and anyone who read comments and articles in European newspapers about the Muslim-Western clash of value will notice that it is not only the right wing and pro-Israeli streams that are casting doubts on the ability of Muslims to integrate in Western societies. The end result will be more distortion of the image of Islam and more difficult livelihoods for Muslims in the West.
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from Jordan
said:Dear Mohammad. This is a lot of philosophical load to deal with. All I can say is that any person regardless of being religious or not can derive his own package of morality from religions since all of them are basically ethical message. For instance Islam focuses on a huge set of moral values like honesty and virtue and it can be practised by a secular also. The debate over religion and morality is very old and sometimes there is no hiding from religion. The existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre, for example, says that "If God is dead, everything is permitted." In other words, if there is no supreme being to lay down the moral law, each individual is free to do as he or she pleases. Without a divine lawgiver, there can be no universal moral law.
Philosophers as diverse as Plato, Immanuel Kant, John Stuart Mill, George Edward Moore, and John Rawls have demonstrated that it is possible to have a universal morality without God, but this issue was not well-addressed in the Islamic philosophy which traces almost all morals to God and religious texts. In the end, I guess a non-religious person can chose a set of moral values that are included in religions and reject any sort of killing or dominance that some religions have.
However, there are the five moral principles of secular humanists which I will clarify now.
from Jordan
said:The modern secular humanist philosophy has endorsed five principles for "secular moral values" they are:
1-the pursuit of happiness a basic goal of ethical life, both for the individual and society. People may dispute about the meaning of happiness, but nonetheless most humanists say that the good life involves satisfying and pleasurable experience, creative actualization, and human realization.
2- the recognition that each person has equal dignity and value, and that he or she ought to be considered as an end and not a mere means.
3-the ideal of moral freedom. Humanists defend free societies that allow wide latitude for individuals to express their own needs, desires, interests, goals, and their diverse visions of the good life, however idiosyncratic they may be. Nevertheless, humanist ethics emphasizes the higher intellectual, moral, and æsthetic values, and it focuses on moral growth and development as essential to happiness.
4- To tolerate the diversity of values and principles in different individuals and groups in society. People many not necessarily accept different lifestyles; butsimply allow them to co-exist
5- humanist ethics focuses on human reason as the basis of ethical choice.
these are very interesitng. where did you get them from? were they discussed in some open forum? you list them as if they were the "UN Ethic Code". Are they "officialized" in any way?
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a question that is not very related:
How can areligious people define morality?
How can one that does not believe in God find answers to:
what is right or wrong?
what is the goal of life?
what should I do in life?
do you recommend any books?